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Neither Trump, Clinton exactly right about stop-and- frisk


Mike Pence: Stop-And-Frisk Literally Saves Lives

All eyes were on Hofstra University Monday evening for the first presidential debate.

WASHINGTON ― Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump claimed on Monday that the stop and frisk policy in NY “brought the crime rate way down”, despite the fact that crime went down after the policy ended.

Because the appeals courts have never taken up the matter, it is perfectly reasonable to say that stop-and-frisk’s constitutionality is an open question.

Stop and frisk was introduced under Giuliani and expanded under former mayor Michael Bloomberg, who took office in 2002. And it was terminated by current mayor. Thanks to precision policing and the bravery and hard work of New Yorkers and our police, a city that once experienced more than 2,000 murders in a year mourned 352 last year. He claims it led to the drop of murders in New York City. That perception continues to this day and is tough to change, as even the NYPD knows: in an interview with the Daily News, new police Commissioner James O’Neill discussed the “stop-and-frisk debacle”.

In 2011, at the peak of the practice, the NYPD stopped 685,724 people; 53 percent of them were black, 34 percent were Latino. In 2011 in NY, with 685,000 stops, records show 106,669 major felonies. By way of background, Donald Trump had called for Chicago (and possibly other cities) to begin using “stop-and-frisk” tactics to curtail what he has been calling a “crime wave” – more accurately, after decades of steady declines, a spike in murders in a small number of cities. “All right. You check it”. According to NYPD figures, 252 murders have been committed through September 25, a 5.3 percent decline compared to this time previous year.

Shootings in the most populous USA city also declined 12 percent since 2015, when Democratic Mayor Bill de Blasio and former Police Commissioner Bill Bratton ordered stop-and-frisk reduced. In other words, the number of major felonies dropped slightly, with just 3 percent of the number of stops undertaken four years before. “Make no mistake – Scheindlin has put New York directly in harm’s way with a ruling that threatens to push the city back toward the ravages of lawlessness and bloodshed”, wrote the New York Daily News editorial board at the time. Bill de Blasio became mayor while the appeals process was ongoing. That November de Blasio won election by the largest margin of any non-incumbent in city history. Scheindlin ruled that the practice raised Fourth and Fourteenth Amendment problems and ordered its discontinuation. “We have to bring back law and order”. “It did not do what it needed to do”. While talking about the violence in Chicago, Trump proposed the use of stop-and-frisk, a policy which allows police officers to randomly stop civilians and search them. Ohio. The ruling solidified the legality of stop-and-frisk practices, and still remains the law of the land.

“During my administration, the U.S. Justice Department spent two years examining stop and frisk and it filed no case”, Giuliani wrote. “A federal judge in NY did order remedies to ensure the NYPD applies the lawful policing tool constitutionally”, the NYPD said.

The businessman states the case went before a “very against-police judge” and it was later “taken away from her”.

Initially, the city of NY appealed the ruling to the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.